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i think that underestimates joe biden. what paul ryan said is true he he has been doing this for 40 years and he will be on message. he has something else, is too. barack obama felt con strained to go after mitt romney with some of the lines, 47%, bain capital. he was going to look presidential. joe biden is going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at paul ryan and paul ryan's job has to be to not only meet that and turn it but also continue to do the sort of positive message that romney did in his debate. >> chris: there is the perception that bide season a loose cannon and a gaffe machine and i asked paul ryan about this last week and he said not in the highly visible highly structured events. he is disciplined and has been studying all of his debates. what do you expect from the vice president? >> i think that is true and if you you remember a lot of his gaffes, a, usually aren't covered by the media and b, are often sort of humorous but not damaging in the sense that he is changing policy or putting something out
i think that underestimates joe biden. what paul ryan said is true he he has been doing this for 40 years and he will be on message. he has something else, is too. barack obama felt con strained to go after mitt romney with some of the lines, 47%, bain capital. he was going to look presidential. joe biden is going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at paul ryan and paul ryan's job has to be to not only meet that and turn it but also continue to do the sort of positive message that romney...
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biden has to stop the momentum from romney. romney/ryan has the momentum. it is to joe biden. ga.l loo fhe if l a democratic convention, i think that joe biden did a better job of driving the message home than president obama did. we remember him saying, g.m.'s ale and bin laden's dead. if he canet mab >>tagn j vice-president biden than paul ryan? >> i think he needs to go back for the president and go hard on offense. i think you will see him hit real hard on the auto bailout and dha sep rnd . rvo fnd and mitt romney opposed it. >> greta: the president admits he had a bad night. how does he recover? >> he has a sports mentality. i thi it was smart to publicly ny thisdoabit thhe cin pithe go at romney. but the obama campaign of attack romney, after he won the debate. i thought that was an odd strategy because we will have to see president obama on the attack. th's what rishre wdegp, se in date.m that's where obama has to be on the attack, but also not look too mean because he does have the likeable edge over mitt romney. he can't lose that. >> greta: how do do youhat pren antk
biden has to stop the momentum from romney. romney/ryan has the momentum. it is to joe biden. ga.l loo fhe if l a democratic convention, i think that joe biden did a better job of driving the message home than president obama did. we remember him saying, g.m.'s ale and bin laden's dead. if he canet mab >>tagn j vice-president biden than paul ryan? >> i think he needs to go back for the president and go hard on offense. i think you will see him hit real hard on the auto bailout and...
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but that hasn't stopped him from giving advice to joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden, about tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. congressman ryan is... a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> sean: so, should vice-president biden take his boss's advice? joining us, our political panel, michael crowley, bobcu sack john mccormick. michael, joe will be joe -- is that good advice? >> up to a point. there is good joe and bad joe. so joe needs to moderate his joe-ness. his strength is that i think he can come across as a little bit more of an every man than the president and he will go after paul ryan on the ryan plan and the budget that ryan and romney are running on, saying it favors the wealthy and it will cut medicare, a very popular entitlements program. you don't want joe doing his gaffe thing, getting carried away. i think he does that more often in crowd it's. >> and speeches. >> he is pretty goods in the debates and against palin last time around. >> i think there is -- it's a fascinatin
but that hasn't stopped him from giving advice to joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden, about tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. congressman ryan is... a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> sean: so, should vice-president biden take his boss's advice? joining us, our political panel, michael crowley, bobcu sack john mccormick. michael, joe will be joe -- is that good advice?...
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joe biden. >> oh, joe biden probably uncle owen. >> cenk: i don't remember uncle owen. >> who was my surrogate father. supportive, a little bit surly. >> cenk: that's funny we went with chewbacca because he's enthusiastic passionate, loyal sidekick. >> everybody loves a wookie. i'm not talking to people with news busters but everybody loves joe biden. >> cenk: how about obama. >> he's very wise. he has got this sort of probably across between obi wan and yoda. i so revere him. i'll go with obi wan. >> i respect him as well, so we decided he was luke skywalker. >> oh my gosh. >> cenk: the guy who was going to heal the planet. >> that's right. which is mocked by the right. what is so terrible. >> cenk: it would be great if we healed the planet. it would be terrific. mark hamill. thank you so much. we appreciate it. and the elbow of the day. oh, eliot spitzer. >> eliot: you almost forgot about it. cenk, i'm not going to let you forget that again. your you're going to be sitting next to me tomorrow night. you better be nice to me. we have governor granholm coming up about what it's like
joe biden. >> oh, joe biden probably uncle owen. >> cenk: i don't remember uncle owen. >> who was my surrogate father. supportive, a little bit surly. >> cenk: that's funny we went with chewbacca because he's enthusiastic passionate, loyal sidekick. >> everybody loves a wookie. i'm not talking to people with news busters but everybody loves joe biden. >> cenk: how about obama. >> he's very wise. he has got this sort of probably across between obi wan...
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joe biden does not. because he believes that a faith that has so little regard for the poor and the marginalized is no faith at all. script tour teaches us nobody is perfect, neither paul ryan nor the vice president. but in mathews gospel christ warns us about being deceived. and the test is not what you say, it's what you do. watch out for false prophets, they come to you in sheep's clothing. but inwardly they are ferocious
joe biden does not. because he believes that a faith that has so little regard for the poor and the marginalized is no faith at all. script tour teaches us nobody is perfect, neither paul ryan nor the vice president. but in mathews gospel christ warns us about being deceived. and the test is not what you say, it's what you do. watch out for false prophets, they come to you in sheep's clothing. but inwardly they are ferocious
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people who thought that joe biden was kind of a rude guy before the debate, they still think. that reinforced it. do you really think that the 17 undecided voters left in iowa or ohio who saw that debate and went that joe biden, man, he sure is mean. i'm not voting for him. >> it probably didn't have a great impact. actually, i do think the debates have mattered an awful lot. "new york times" today nate silver, hardly a conservative reporting that really the race has taken a very different trajectory. that bounce after the first debate is continuing on. there has been about a four or five-point shift in the race following that debate. i don't think like some people on the right that that is permanent or that that is a lock. but the race changed fundamentally after that debate. and the president's job next tuesday is see if he can change it back. >> kevin, what does the president to v to do on tuesday to do that? >> the president has to decide if he still wants to be president. i mean that bizarre performance. >> he needs the fire in the belly. >> that bizarre performance signa
people who thought that joe biden was kind of a rude guy before the debate, they still think. that reinforced it. do you really think that the 17 undecided voters left in iowa or ohio who saw that debate and went that joe biden, man, he sure is mean. i'm not voting for him. >> it probably didn't have a great impact. actually, i do think the debates have mattered an awful lot. "new york times" today nate silver, hardly a conservative reporting that really the race has taken a...
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i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have thrown at mitt romney or asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >> identical number. that's a wonderful thing to be teed up for vice president biden, and he can also just come at him on the issue of entitlements generally. paul ryan is somebody who apparently saved the survivor benefits that he got from social security, used them to go to a good college, and now has been a long-time advocate of privatizing social security. >> i just wish joe biden would at some point ask the
i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have thrown at mitt romney or asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which...
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>> i think obviously joe biden is 69 years old. paul ryan is 42 years old. 27-year difference, but on all of these issues the two went at it, and i thought paul ryan -- he went toe to toe on national security foreign policy issues with the vice president who has way more experience in all of these areas than ryan did, but ryan obviously has studied a lot. certainly over the last few weeks getting ready for this debate. he didn't fumble, and the vice president, there were no gaffs by joe biden during this dae bait. people can dmran about some stylistic maneuvers and the hands and the smiles and the smirks and all that kind of stuff, but there were no major verbal gaffs or anything by either of these candidates. i think it was a pretty good substantive debate. >> okay. so now i want to jump to something that's sort of unusual. i don't often hear pundits discuss this part of the debate. it was the very end, the stuff you're not usually supposed to be watching. it was when the families came up on the stage. i don't know about you, but
>> i think obviously joe biden is 69 years old. paul ryan is 42 years old. 27-year difference, but on all of these issues the two went at it, and i thought paul ryan -- he went toe to toe on national security foreign policy issues with the vice president who has way more experience in all of these areas than ryan did, but ryan obviously has studied a lot. certainly over the last few weeks getting ready for this debate. he didn't fumble, and the vice president, there were no gaffs by joe...
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joe biden has the opportunity to tell the truth. what mitt romney will do to the middle class in this country. good debate by joe biden coming up on thursday night. joan, how important is it? >> it's really important. i think what he needs to do is tie paul ryan around mitt romney's neck like a mill stone. paul ryan's policies are deadly unpopular and he's basically been allowed to kind of get away with it and paper over what he believes and what mitt romney believes. but paul ryan is just a terrible deficit for the ticket. the other thing is it is a base senator john mccain by 2 to 1 in the margin in the youth vote in this country. it's crucial for the president to get similar numbers this time around if he's going to win the state of florida. of course, to vote they must be registered and voter registration drives have been underway for months. yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm not sure which policy is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage or not enough, making it easier
joe biden has the opportunity to tell the truth. what mitt romney will do to the middle class in this country. good debate by joe biden coming up on thursday night. joan, how important is it? >> it's really important. i think what he needs to do is tie paul ryan around mitt romney's neck like a mill stone. paul ryan's policies are deadly unpopular and he's basically been allowed to kind of get away with it and paper over what he believes and what mitt romney believes. but paul ryan is...
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joe biden set the table for that. paul ryan was exposed last night for not having any new ideas and for not being truthful about their plans. >> brad woodhouse, thank you so much. i appreciate your time today, dnc xhuks director. >>> let's bring in our friday political power. julian reed, alice stewart. we want to mention any minute we are expecting to hear from former president clinton at a rally in indiana. he is taking the stage right now. we'll get straight to this once it does happen. i do want to start with you because one way biden fired up last night is he hit on that 47% videotape. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who has 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. >> romney is a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> i always say what i mean. and so does romney. >> spirited debate there. joy ann reed
joe biden set the table for that. paul ryan was exposed last night for not having any new ideas and for not being truthful about their plans. >> brad woodhouse, thank you so much. i appreciate your time today, dnc xhuks director. >>> let's bring in our friday political power. julian reed, alice stewart. we want to mention any minute we are expecting to hear from former president clinton at a rally in indiana. he is taking the stage right now. we'll get straight to this once it...
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>> well, we heard it from joe bid biden, but not just joe biden. these are observers, xerts w ex have gone to syria, a bigger country, more populated. the syrian military is stronger, no split between east and west as there was in libya going in. and air support alone probably wouldn't do it. that said, something needs to be done, many people say, what will it be? that's a big question because people are dying. >> final presidential debate on foreign policy specifically, hala gorani, thank you very much. >>> now, joe biden, heads up, we're watching and waiting this will be first time we will have heard from him since the debate last night. speaking for the first time in, here we go, live pictures, don't see him yet, in paul ryan's territory, lacrosse, wisconsin. waiting for him, watching. be right back. customer erin swenson bought from us online today. so, i'm happy. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her pack
>> well, we heard it from joe bid biden, but not just joe biden. these are observers, xerts w ex have gone to syria, a bigger country, more populated. the syrian military is stronger, no split between east and west as there was in libya going in. and air support alone probably wouldn't do it. that said, something needs to be done, many people say, what will it be? that's a big question because people are dying. >> final presidential debate on foreign policy specifically, hala...
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the same with joe biden. joe biden and chris dodd were great debaters in 2008. they're both great in this forum, and biden is going to be great tonight. >> reporter: two things. i'm not being facetious here. paul ryan and joe biden are two of the best people in politics for us to cover. so i think the favorability for both should be about 100. two, it's only going to matter in this race if one of them has a super strong debate and one of them has a weak debate. otherwise, voters are focused on the top of the ticket and not on this. finally, i think both are going to be very prepared. they both have potential trouble spots, but they're both very well prepared, they're both smart, and i think they'll fight it out to a draw. the vice president wants to focus on ryan's budget. paul ryan wants to focus on the question of why would the next four years be different than the last four years on the economy? my guess is they're going to fight to a draw. >> this is kind of an interesting story. abc news is insisting there will be no conflict of interest when martha raddatz
the same with joe biden. joe biden and chris dodd were great debaters in 2008. they're both great in this forum, and biden is going to be great tonight. >> reporter: two things. i'm not being facetious here. paul ryan and joe biden are two of the best people in politics for us to cover. so i think the favorability for both should be about 100. two, it's only going to matter in this race if one of them has a super strong debate and one of them has a weak debate. otherwise, voters are...
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but on the other hand it will be up to a lot of the debates in the future, especially joe biden to get out there and say this is what paul ryan stands for. you cut a third out of medicaid, you're putting a lot of families and elderly people out on the street. that is not rhetoric. that is how bad it would be. you have to demonstrate that. you might say it's bigger than big bird. >> and let's remember that after this debate, mitt romney is still on the losing side politically of the medicare issue which the obama campaign knows and they've got a new ad about that now. let's watch that. >> victims. dependent. that's what mitt romney called 47% of americans, including people on medicare. and what about his plan for you? romney would replace guaranteed benefits with a voucher system. seniors could pay $6,000 more a year. a plan aarp says would undermine medicare. you're no victim. you earned your benefits. don't let mitt romney take them away. >> well, krystal, that's what happens with someone who says my job is not to care about those people. >> it's devastating. and as we've seen from ro
but on the other hand it will be up to a lot of the debates in the future, especially joe biden to get out there and say this is what paul ryan stands for. you cut a third out of medicaid, you're putting a lot of families and elderly people out on the street. that is not rhetoric. that is how bad it would be. you have to demonstrate that. you might say it's bigger than big bird. >> and let's remember that after this debate, mitt romney is still on the losing side politically of the...
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but joe biden won in delaware even as his state was going for nixon and i think if you pull this off, you will be a man to be watched for years and years. thank you very much, richard carmona running for the united states senate in arizona. up next, a new pbs documentary on this race, the 2012 presidential race, explores how mitt romney's mormon faith shapes him as a politician and his ambitions and how romney and obama came back from bruising losses early in their political careers and that's ahead. this is "hardball," the place for politics. mike rowe here at d dealer with a little q&a for fiona. tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your ford dealer. who has 11 major brands to choose from? your ford dealer. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. who has the low price tire guarantee... affording peace of mind to anyone who might be in the market for a new set of tires? your ford dealer. i'm beginning to sense a pattern. buy four select tires, get a $60 rebate. use the ford service credit credit card, get $60 more. that's up to $120. where did you get that sweater vest? y
but joe biden won in delaware even as his state was going for nixon and i think if you pull this off, you will be a man to be watched for years and years. thank you very much, richard carmona running for the united states senate in arizona. up next, a new pbs documentary on this race, the 2012 presidential race, explores how mitt romney's mormon faith shapes him as a politician and his ambitions and how romney and obama came back from bruising losses early in their political careers and that's...
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. >> we have done three sessions and they all concluded the same thing, that joe biden did well on the substance, but they were so angry with his style and want more that you split screen the two of them where they could see biden's interruptions and smiling and the laughing, it's funny i actually wrote down on my note, don't interrupt and don't smile. they didn't want that from the vice president. and he could have gained points. but not a single person in any session switched. there the previous debate, we had about a third our group switched. >> schieffer: when you say your sessions, what were these focus groups? what exactly was this? how are you measuring this? >> we take undecide voters in a number of dyfferent cities in the key swing states b30 people, and they react second by second, using dials. in and in almost every biden's style scores did better than ryans and yet when you startlet discussion the first thing they said is, "why was he interrupting? why was he seeming to go overboard? he was passionate but he went too far." >> at the risk of interrupting, you know, what stri
. >> we have done three sessions and they all concluded the same thing, that joe biden did well on the substance, but they were so angry with his style and want more that you split screen the two of them where they could see biden's interruptions and smiling and the laughing, it's funny i actually wrote down on my note, don't interrupt and don't smile. they didn't want that from the vice president. and he could have gained points. but not a single person in any session switched. there the...
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biden was debating for hiss approximatal k578 pain, ryan was in -- >> why is it that joe biden is the first in his family ever to go to a yooirlt. why is out that my wife that's sitting out there in the audience is the first in her family to ever go to college? is it because our fathers and mothers were not briblgt. no, it's not because they weren't as smarlt, it's not because they didn't work as hard, it's because they didn't have a platform upon which to stand. >> biden had credited kennick and other speeches. >> an editorial in the los angeles times said, in addition to his uncontrolled very bossy, bide season a gaff machine, can you reassure voters in this country that you would have the discipline you would need on the world stage, senator. >> yes. >> that was 2007. and it's that guy paul ryan has to fear, the one who arguably won most of the 2008 primary debates with lines like this. >> and the irony is rudy giuliani, probably the most underqualified man since george w. bush to seek the presidency is here talking about any of the people. rudy giuliani, that's only three things h
biden was debating for hiss approximatal k578 pain, ryan was in -- >> why is it that joe biden is the first in his family ever to go to a yooirlt. why is out that my wife that's sitting out there in the audience is the first in her family to ever go to college? is it because our fathers and mothers were not briblgt. no, it's not because they weren't as smarlt, it's not because they didn't work as hard, it's because they didn't have a platform upon which to stand. >> biden had...
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it is the vice presidential debate, joe biden versus paul ryan, cnn special live coverage begins 7:00 eastern, 4:00 pacific on cnn. >>> spinning lies and publishing propaganda, a syrian palace insider defects from the bashar al assad regime and spills his secrets to cnn. that's next. capella university understands rough economic times have led to an increase in clinical depression. drug and alcohol abuse is up. and those dealing with grief don't have access to the professional help they need. when you see these issues, do you want to walk away or step up? with a degree in the field of counseling or psychology from capella university, you'll have the knowledge to make a difference in the lives of others. let's get started at capella.edu i"i'm not in favor of a a$5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan." mitchell: "the nonpartisan tax policy center concluded that mitt romney's tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over 10 years." vo: why won't romney level with us about his tax plan, which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the mi
it is the vice presidential debate, joe biden versus paul ryan, cnn special live coverage begins 7:00 eastern, 4:00 pacific on cnn. >>> spinning lies and publishing propaganda, a syrian palace insider defects from the bashar al assad regime and spills his secrets to cnn. that's next. capella university understands rough economic times have led to an increase in clinical depression. drug and alcohol abuse is up. and those dealing with grief don't have access to the professional help...
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quick reminder to all of you, we're talking about the vice presidential debate, again, joe biden, paul ryan, prepping to debate one another. it is thursday night, set the dvr now and remember our live coverage begins at 7:00 eastern here on cnn. >>> as president obama and mitt romney race to the finish -- >> i got my start as a community organizer. >> i know how the private sector works. >> a new documentary shows not only their most decisive moments, but how their minds work. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >> he knows that every step he takes is a potential land mine. >> the backlash against his presidency must be mystifying to him because he genuinely doesn't see himself as a radical. >> i'll speak live with the pbs producer behind this film. >>> plus -- >> liftoff of the space x falcon 9 rocket. >> the future of space travel begins. >>> and -- as hugo chavez battles health problems, the socialist leader wins six more years. [ male announcer ] break the grip of aches or arthritis pain with odor free aspercreme. powerful medicine relieves pain fast, with no odor. so all you noti
quick reminder to all of you, we're talking about the vice presidential debate, again, joe biden, paul ryan, prepping to debate one another. it is thursday night, set the dvr now and remember our live coverage begins at 7:00 eastern here on cnn. >>> as president obama and mitt romney race to the finish -- >> i got my start as a community organizer. >> i know how the private sector works. >> a new documentary shows not only their most decisive moments, but how their...